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The issue was not resolved. Rather, it was closed by an angry driver. In fact, the comments posted by this person illustrate the problem -- some New Haven drivers think it is fun to attempt to run over Yale students, even those who are disabled.

Problem continues and obviously also affects pedestrians who are not Yalies.

Definitely. I can confirm that cars refuse to stop for townies too.

How about you Yalies have a some courtesy for drivers show a little hustle when crossing the street? You might find folks in cars less aggressive toward you. Not everyone in this town is here to cater to your pampered existence.

This is not a town versus gown issue. This is an issue of life and death for the dozens of pedestrians who have been mowed down by reckless drivers in recent years. Drivers: are you in such a rush to get where you're going that you're willing to kill? If you aren't, stop for pedestrians, for the love of live!

to the commenter above who said:"show a little hustle when crossing the street"

how about you show a little respect for your neighbors, whether or not they are attending college, and observe state law which is to yield to pedestrians.

the most it would cost you to wait for someone to cross, even the slowest imaginable person, might be 3 or 4 minutes? what in your life is so important that you can't possibly lose 3 minutes to help keep someone safe crossing a street? that is shorter than most commercial breaks. seriously.

I forwarded this issue to Rob Smuts, who is in charge of the Police Department at City Hall. Hopefully he'll respond here regarding any plans to enforce the crosswalk laws.

I agree with the comment about "showing a little hustle". Why should a driver be incovenienced while some rich college student dawdles across the street while text messaging. I always stop for pedesrtrians in crosswalks, but if one stops in the middle of the road to check their Iphone you can be assured I'm going to lay on the horn!

I want to make sure that you all know that just because a person is IN a crosswalk does NOT mean that the person has the right away.

Yes, in this case the person had the right away. But some people act like "I'm in a crosswalk, I have the right of way."

The law clearly states that if the crosswalk has signals (walk/don't walk) the pedestrian MUST obey those signals.

I want to make sure that you all know that just because a person is IN a crosswalk does NOT mean that the person has the right away.

Yes, in this case the person had the right away. But some people act like "I'm in a crosswalk, I have the right of way."

The law clearly states that if the crosswalk has signals (walk/don't walk) the pedestrian MUST obey those signals.

Obviously I agree that when there are walk/don't walk signs at an intersection, pedestrians should follow those signs. Pedestrians do not have the right of way while jaywalking.

However, this discussion is about crosswalks at busy intersections where there are no streetlights. Pedestrians have the right of way when they are in those crosswalks. Cars failing to yeild to them can be fined $90. (see http://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/pub/Chap249.htm#Sec14-300.htm)

I would simply like to see CT state law enforced in New Haven. The stand-up crosswalk markers help make drivers more aware of crosswalks, but for many drivers the issue is not crosswalk visibility. Rather, the problem is that drivers simply do not want to stop for pedestrians. The crosswalk at Mansfield/Division has a crosswalk stand-up marker and other signs, and though they obviously see that I am in a crosswalk, cars still refuse to stop for me. I believe that improved enforcement is the only way to encourage New Haven's drivers to change their behavior.

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billie,
thats amazing! you can tell, upon approaching someone in a crosswalk (while going not one mile over the speed limit, right?) whether A) they are attending college and B) rich?

neither attending college nor rich (but still demand to be stopped for when i legally have the right of way),
juli

it's not called being kind, it's called following state law.

i can't believe the ignorance displayed here.

It's not ignorance. It's called having lived in this city you whole life and not wanting to cater to rich little brats. You might be surprised as to how many people feel similarly. They just don't get on this site to complain about every little incovenience you find in the city.

an entitled, aggressive, selfish car-centric society is not a mere inconvenience, it detracts from ones quality of life. i don't speed through your neighborhood almost running you over.

i am neither rich, nor a yale student, nor a clueless jaywalking pedestrian, and i still nearly get run down in this city almost daily. i feel terribly for the elderly or children who have to wait at intersections passively or try to dart out of the way while streams of elitist drivers stream by on their cell phones without even noticing.

I am also not rich, and not a Yale student. I confirm that people driving through crosswalks come very close to running me down. People don't seem to know that crosswalks are pedestrian territory, just like sidewalks that cross over driveways. Cars can go through these spaces only when pedestrians are not using them. That's a basic fact that you don't need to go to Yale to learn. If you don't know it, ConnDOT should not have given you a license. Drivers have a basic moral and legal obligation to yield to pedestrians making use of pedestrian space.

This isn't about dawdling Yalies. They are not the only pedestrians in New Haven.

and with regards to this particular intersection, i lived on mansfield street for 3 years and would like to report that a hit and run driver at this intersection killed a mother and her infant/toddler a couple years back. as i recall, they were neither rich, nor white, nor yalies, but they are most certainly dead now, thanks to someone who was too important to slow down for fellow citizens in the crosswalk.

I agree, speeding here is a MAJOR issue, even though the installation of a yield to pedestrian sign (which is only there a few months out of the year) has helped somewhat.

Since enforcement is next to useless and the police district manager has said it is difficult to maintain as a priority, given limited cop resources, the best solution would be to narrow the travel lanes significantly so that cars have to slow.

This can be done with temporary curb extensions for very little cost, until funding becomes available to install permanent infrastructure, like the ones currently being put in in East Shore, East Rock and Westville (at the current rate of construction, Newhallville will eventually get such infrastructure, but it will take dozens of years to roll them out everywhere they are needed).

Another short-term solution would be to drop a huge block of concrete in the middle of the intersection, with reflectors on it, like what Berkeley, CA and many other cities do.

I'm not sure why the city isn't working to improve quality of life by rolling out temporary infrastructure like this.

Finally, there's probably no need for so many travel lanes here. Get rid of one and turn the center area into a pedestrian median with large bollards.

Closing due to old age

this remains an issue, so it should remain open.

Works for a Living, I'm with ya...
But if someone's actually IN the crosswalk, you gotta stop.

Holler out the window at em or beep your horn if they're dragging @#$%, checking their iphone while crossing.

There's ways to let rich snots know that they're unloved that don't involve threatening their safety.

How about the hordes of Yalies at Trumbull/Whitney and Trumbull/Prospect who walk right in fron tof you, never mind the lights. I've ben stuck at 4 or 5 light changes while they refuse to stop for the traffic lights. How about ticketing jaywalking Yalies? You wonder why drivers can't stand you?

R. Blahso,

Lay on that horn, baby...

I completely agree that pedestrians should obey traffic signals -- but so should cars. And when pedestrians are in a crosswalk at an intersection that does not have a stoplight, cars need to stop for them. It's that simple.

Yale should build a pedestrian bridge/tunnel on Elm, between College and York...............Either that or the NHPD should hand out J-walking tickets there during the day.....The revenue would be so high we could get rid of the parking meters in town!

A pedestrian tunnel would just be a mugging trap after dark.

Right now you can't ticket any of these people, because the walk/don't times are so out of wack across the city....same with red lights.

New Haven should get it's act together and completely re-do all the stop light and pedestrian crossing times, and then aggressively enforce all of them...ticketing drivers and jaywalkers alike.

They have their own po po.. and a 20 billion dollar endowment......they can man a tunnel!

This is a problem, especially since the visibility for drivers and pedestrians alike is not good. There should at least be a blinking yellow at the corner because drivers speed up Munson/Hillside toward Prospect and can't see if card are coming onto Hillside from Mansfield or if pedestrians are attempting to cross. Coming down the hill from Prospect the visibility is better but speeding is still something of an issue. I honestly would like to see a stop sign at least three ways here. A lot of people work in science park and walk downtown, to the carts at the Yale whale, to their houses etc. as well as students who live farther up on Mansfield and cross back and forth all day.

I agree this is still a major problem. No evidence yet that those in control of our streets are concerned about protecting the people who live and walk here.

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